Do gutters cause ice dams?

No. Gutters do not cause ice dams. An ice dam forms when heat escaping from the house melts snow on the upper roof and the water refreezes at the cold eave. Gutters hang at that cold edge, so they collect the ice and can be bent or torn loose by its weight. Taking them down would not stop the dam.

Ice dam and icicles along the roof edge of a house in Minnesota
Minnesota, February 2019. Photo: Myotus, Wikimedia Commons, CC0.
22°Fabove this, problem icing grew slowly or not at all
R-50attic minimum, Minnesota Department of Commerce
6 vs 16 in.snow that brings an R-20 and an R-50 roof to 32°F
57Fort Drum buildings cured by insulation and venting

What causes an ice dam?

University of Minnesota Extension names three conditions that have to hold at the same time: snow on the roof, an upper roof surface that averages above 32°F, and a lower roof surface that averages below 32°F.1 Snow melts on the warm part, runs down under the snowpack, and freezes when it reaches the cold part. The ridge of ice grows for as long as meltwater keeps arriving. Water backs up behind it and works under shingles, which are made to shed water and cannot hold a pond.

  1. 1Snow on the roofThere has to be something to melt.
  2. 2Upper roof above 32°FHeat from the house melts the snow from underneath.
  3. 3Roof edge below 32°FThe meltwater reaches the cold overhang and freezes.

The warm part of the roof is warm because of the house. The Minnesota Department of Commerce says so in one line of its Home Energy Guide sheet on ice dams: "The primary cause of ice dams is attic air leaks."2 Warm, moist air rises through gaps around plumbing vents, wiring, chimneys and light fixtures and heats the roof deck from below. Extension describes the same path and writes that in many homes it is "the major mode of heat transfer that leads to the formation of ice dams."1

The U.S. Army's Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory offers the plainest demonstration. Its researchers photographed two identically built buildings near Watertown, New York, within minutes of each other. One roof carried large ice dams and icicles and the other was ice-free. The ice-free building was the one with the heat turned off.3

Cross-section of a roof edge with an ice dam Heat leaks up through the ceiling and warms the roof over the living space, so snow melts there. The meltwater runs down to the unheated overhang, refreezes into an ice dam, and the gutter below fills with ice. Ice dam Below 32°F: water refreezes Gutter fills with ice Above 32°F: snow melts Heat and warm air leak up from the house
Heat from the house melts snow over the living space. The overhang has no heated room under it, so the meltwater refreezes there. After sources 1 and 5.

Why does the ice end up in the gutter?

The overhang is the one part of the roof with no heated room under it. It stays at outdoor temperature while the roof over the living space warms, so meltwater freezes there first.5 The gutter hangs at the outer edge of that cold zone. Whatever water gets past the dam lands in it and freezes too.

Paul Fisette investigated ice dams as a builder and as a researcher at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. His summary is direct:

Contrary to popular belief, gutters do not cause ice dams. However, gutters do help concentrate ice and water at a very vulnerable roof-eaves area. As gutters fill with ice, they often bend and rip away from the house bringing fascia, fasteners and downspouts in tow.

Paul Fisette, University of Massachusetts Amherst5
Ice dam covering the gutter and downspout at the corner of a dark-sided house in Minnesota, with icicles reaching the first-floor window Thick column of ice hanging from the eave of a Minnesota house above a snow-covered garden
The same Minnesota house in February 2019. The gutter and the top of the downspout are inside the ice. Photos: Myotus, Wikimedia Commons, CC0.

The gutter is where the damage shows, which is why it gets the blame. Take it away and the three conditions Extension lists are unchanged. The dam still forms on the roof deck above the overhang, and the ice hangs from the shingle edge instead of filling a trough.

How cold does it have to be for an ice dam to form?

It has to be below freezing outside, with snow on the roof. The Army researchers instrumented several buildings in northern New York and reported that problem icing "developed very slowly, if at all" when the outside temperature was above −5.5°C, which is about 22°F.4 Near the freezing point the eave is barely cold enough to refreeze anything, and the dam does not grow much.

Outdoor temperature and ice dam growth Below about 22°F ice dams grow. Between 22°F and 32°F icing grows very slowly, if at all. Above 32°F nothing refreezes. Ice dams grow Slow, if at all Thaw 0°F 22°F 32°F 40°F Outdoor temperature, with snow on a heated roof
The 22°F line is from the Army field measurements (source 4). An individual house can differ.

Snow depth matters as much as cold, because snow is insulation. Fisette puts its value at roughly R-0.5 to R-1 per inch, so ten inches of snow adds R-5 to R-10 on top of the roof and holds the house's heat against the roof deck. In his words, "The worst ice dams occur when deep snow accompanies cold weather."5

How much does attic insulation change the roof temperature?

Fisette works one example by hand: an R-20 roof under ten inches of snow, 70°F indoors and 20°F outdoors, ends up with roof sheathing between 30°F and 37°F. That is warm enough to melt snow while the overhang sits at 20°F.5 The chart applies the same arithmetic to a second attic insulated to R-50, the minimum the Minnesota Department of Commerce recommends where space allows.2

Roof sheathing temperature by snow depth for R-20 and R-50 attics With 70°F indoors and 20°F outdoors, the R-20 attic band crosses 32°F at about 6 inches of snow and the R-50 attic band at about 16 inches. The table below gives the same values. 20° 40° 50° 0 6 12 18 24 R-20 attic R-50 attic 32° Snow on the roof, inches
View as a table
Estimated roof sheathing temperature over the living space, 70°F indoors and 20°F outdoors
Snow on roofR-20 atticR-50 attic
5 inches26 to 30°F22 to 25°F
10 inches30 to 37°F25 to 28°F
20 inches37 to 45°F28 to 34°F
Roof sheathing temperature over the living space, 70°F indoors and 20°F outdoors. Dashed line: 32°F. Each band runs from snow at R-0.5 to R-1 per inch.

This arithmetic counts only heat conducted through the insulation. It leaves out air leaks, which the Department of Commerce calls the primary cause, and it leaves out attic ventilation, which carries heat away. A leaky ceiling runs warmer than the chart shows. The comparison still holds. By this arithmetic the R-20 roof can reach 32°F under about 6 inches of snow, and the R-50 roof not until about 16 inches.

What stops ice dams?

The Minnesota sources give the same order of work. Extension writes, "First, make the ceiling air tight so no warm, moist air can flow from the house into the attic space," and then consider more ceiling or roof insulation.1 The Department of Commerce says sealing the leaks with caulk or expanding spray foam prevents nearly all ice dams, and that insulation alone is insufficient.2 Extension suggests hiring a weatherization contractor who runs a blower door test and uses an infrared camera to find where the ceiling leaks.1 Minnesota's Weatherization Assistance Program provides free home energy upgrades to income-eligible homeowners and renters.

Where warm air leaks from a house into the attic A house section showing five ceiling leak points: a plumbing vent, a recessed light, the attic hatch, the chimney and wiring holes. Warm air rises through each one into the attic. 1 2 3 4 5 Heated house Attic
(1) Plumbing vents, (2) ceiling light fixtures, (3) the attic hatch, (4) the chimney, (5) wiring holes. Sources 2 and 5.
Blower door with a red fabric panel and fan mounted in an exterior doorway to measure how much air a building leaks Worker in a protective suit blowing loose cellulose insulation across an attic floor
A blower door set up for an air leakage test (NIST, public domain), and cellulose being blown into an attic (Rob Holm, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, public domain).

The sources differ on ventilation. The Army laboratory found insulation combined with roof ventilation the most reliable cure: 57 buildings at Fort Drum were modified to its guidelines, which "essentially eliminated the chronic icing problems of the past."3 Extension says only a small amount of natural ventilation is needed once the sealing and insulation are done well, and that mechanical attic ventilation is not recommended in Minnesota.1 The Department of Commerce warns that adding roof vents "will not eliminate ice dams, and often make the problems worse."2 All three agree on sealing and insulating first.

What should you avoid doing to the ice?

  • Heating cables. The Department of Commerce says they shorten the life of the roof and cost money to operate.2 Fisette adds that the cable tends to create a new ice dam just above it.5
  • Chipping, chemicals or heat. These can damage shingles, gutters and other parts of the building.2
  • Working on the roof in winter. Extension warns that anyone on a winter roof, or working on it from below, risks injury and may damage the roof, and it advises calling professionals.1

Extension does describe two stopgaps. Pulling snow off with a roof rake removes one of the three ingredients, though the rake can scuff the roofing. If water is already coming into the house, a channel melted through the dam with tap water on a warm day, working upward from the lower edge, lets the trapped water drain. The channel stops working within days.1

Is an ice dam a gutter problem or an attic problem?

It is an attic problem. The people who cure it are energy assessors and insulation crews, and a new gutter will not change what the roof does next winter. Extension makes the same point about interior repairs: fix the heat loss at the same time, "or the damage will occur again."1

The gutter work comes afterward. Fisette's list of what ice takes with it is a useful spring checklist from the ground: the gutter run itself, the fascia board behind it, the fasteners and the downspouts.5

  • Gutter runSagging or bent sections
  • Fascia boardA gap where the gutter pulled away
  • FastenersHangers or spikes backed out
  • DownspoutsLoose, split or hanging free

Common questions

Will removing my gutters stop ice dams?

No. University of Minnesota Extension lists three conditions for an ice dam: snow on the roof, an upper roof surface above 32°F and a lower roof surface below 32°F. Removing a gutter changes none of them. The dam forms on the roof deck above the overhang, and without a gutter the ice hangs from the shingle edge instead.

Can ice dams damage gutters?

Yes. Paul Fisette of the University of Massachusetts Amherst wrote that as gutters fill with ice they often bend and rip away from the house, bringing fascia, fasteners and downspouts with them.

Do heat cables prevent ice dams?

The Minnesota Department of Commerce advises against them: heating cables shorten the life of the roof and cost money to run. Fisette observed that a heated cable tends to create a new ice dam just above it.

At what temperature do ice dams form?

There must be snow on the roof and the outdoor temperature must be below freezing. U.S. Army Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory field studies found that problem icing grew very slowly, if at all, when it was warmer than about 22°F (−5.5°C) outside.

Do gutter guards prevent ice dams?

University of Minnesota Extension, the Minnesota Department of Commerce and the Army cold-regions laboratory do not list gutter guards as a cause of ice dams or as a remedy. The mechanism is roof temperature, and a guard does not change how warm the roof deck is.

Sources

  1. Huelman, P., Stone, R., Larson, T. and Hendricks, L. Dealing with and preventing ice dams. University of Minnesota Extension. Reviewed 2022. Source
  2. Minnesota Department of Commerce. Home Energy Guide: Ice Dams (one-page guide), and news release, Ice Dams: Helpful tips from the Minnesota Department of Commerce's Home Energy Guide. Source · news release
  3. Tobiasson, W., Buska, J. and Greatorex, A. Guidelines for Ventilating Attics and Cathedral Ceilings to Avoid Icings at Their Eaves. U.S. Army Engineer Research and Development Center, Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory. Buildings VIII conference paper, MP-02-5778. Source
  4. Tobiasson, W., Buska, J. and Greatorex, A. (1994). Ventilating attics to minimize icings at eaves. Energy and Buildings, 21, 229. Peer-reviewed. Source
  5. Fisette, P. (2011). Preventing Ice Dams. Building and Construction Technology, University of Massachusetts Amherst. Kept online by the department as an archival article. Source

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